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Initial ecut value

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:30 pm
by Amal Giri
Respected All,
Can anybody tell me how initially ecut value in the input file is determined?
with best regards

Re: Initial ecut value

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:02 am
by david.waroquiers
Hello,

You have to make a convergence study for this. The cutoff energy needed for one pseudopotential can vary a lot depending on the cutoff radius, the number of valence electrons, ...

If you are working with silicon, usually values around 12 Ha are enough. For transition metals, you can have cutoff energies up to 80-100 Ha. If your pseudopotential includes semicore states, ecut can also increase more....

In brief, test your pseudopotential with increasing ecut and when it does not change the property anymore, you have your converged parameter.

Re: Initial ecut value

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:26 am
by Amal Giri
Hello
David,

Thank you for your suggetion .
I am going to work with cu. Could you tell me how the convergance studied, I mean what will be the input file for that study.
Another thing that you have told about the no change of property after the test with increasing ecut but I can not understand what properties will remain unchanged?

thanks

Re: Initial ecut value

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:56 am
by Alain_Jacques
Dear Amal,

What David is thinking about is a study of the dependence of the total energy of a bulk Cu on values of ecut. May I suggest to read the tutorial 2 part 2.x at http://www.abinit.org/documentation/helpfiles/for-v6.6/tutorial/lesson_2.html and PAW2 tutorial part at http://www.abinit.org/documentation/helpfiles/for-v6.6/tutorial/lesson_paw2.html#7; the purpose of the latter is PAW pseudo testing, not exactly your case, but the ecut methodology is exactly the same for NC pseudos and the Ni case study similar to Cu
So look on http://www.crystallography.net for a suitable Cu entry, adapt the PAW2 Ni input file - quite easy, it's a metal too - by removing PAW specific entries and plot delta(etotal) vs. ecut. Look for an ecut value for which etotal variations are below 1mHa. If you have wacky total energies for any reasonable ecut values, tune other parameters that also affect convergence as k-point grid.

Kind regards,

Alain